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June, 2016

Contents 1 Introduction 2 Canopy's and Set-ups 2.1 Plain Canopy 2.2 Static Camera Mounts 2.3 Brushless Roll Attachment 2.4 Light Weight Pan and Tilts 2.5 Heavy Duty Pan and Tilt 3 Plain Decks 3.1 Simple GWS Servo Deck 4 Skid Plates 4.1 Front Skids 4.2 Rear Skid 5 Gear Decks 5.1 Main Gear Deck 5.2 Rear Gear Deck 6 Motor Mounts 6.1 Rear Motor Mount 6.2 Original Twin Motor Mounts 6.3 Simple Twin Motor Mounts 7 Misc Mini Talon Parts 8 See Also 8.1 Comments? Questions?

Ready for printing!

Introduction

This article is a collection of 3D print parts specifically designed to fit the X-UAV Mini Talon. These have all been printed and most have been flight tested and even a few - crash tested :).

Many of the parts found here are also on my Thingiverse pages although since all parts are published here first, this is where you will find the most current versions. As on Thingiverse, everything found here is protected by Copyright and licensed under the terms of the Creative Commons "Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International" license.

Enjoy - Mark

Canopy's and Set-ups

I have redone the feature set that makes up this 3D model smoothing out the surface and profile and changing the NACA style vent to side air scoop type vents. It prints more cleanly now and I have added a version which will support either the Geared Pan & Tilt or the 390deg Pan & Tilt. Below you will find the latest versions of this fun design with downloads for all the printable STL files.

Plain Canopy

If you want to simply cover the nose for a more appealing look or need something to fit to your own structure this may be the part you want. The two FPV camera mounts are optional.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	47001	Canopy, Plain	47001.STL
	52001	Canopy support, front	52001.STL
	52002	Canopy support, rear	52002.STL
	52004	Optional HS1177 Camera Mount	52004.STL
	52005	Optional HS1184 Camera Mount	52005.STL

Hardware Shown

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten front support and rear catch in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Static Camera Mounts

This version has a cut-out and platform for the Mobius style HD cams and is the most aerodynamic of all the camera mount units. There are two different canopies, one specifically for the Mobius Mini and one which will accomodate either the Mobius or Runcam cameras.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	47003	Canopy, Mobius Mini	47003.STL
	47005	Canopy, Mobius/Runcam	47005.STL
	54002	Front deck plate, narrow	54002.STL
	54001	Rear deck plate, narrow	54001.STL
	52006	Deck plate support rib	52006.STL
	52007	HD camera mount plate	52007.STL
	52004	Optional HS1177 Camera Mount	52004.STL
	52005	Optional HS1184 Camera Mount	52005.STL

Hardware Shown

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten front and rear decks and ribs in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Brushless Roll Attachment

This is a new addition to the line-up. The canopy has an extra large cut-out so that a brushless gimbal roll attachment can be utilized with some protection for additional electronics like controller, cam switch, etc. The version shown here uses a small 22mm OD motor, a Multistar 1807/340kv.

Roll attachment shown with an early prototype canopy and the Mobius Mini

This really is designed for the Mobius Mini but a larger camera could be used with a slightly larger Gimbal motor such as a 2208-80t/90kv unit. Some canopy trimming may have to be done if an alternate motor is used.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	47013	Canopy, Roll attachment	47013.STL
	54002	Front deck plate	54002.STL
	54001	Rear deck plate	54001.STL
	52006	Canopy support, rib	52006.STL
	52011	Roll attachment camera plate	52011.STL
	52013	Roll attachment end plate	52013.STL
	52012	Roll attachment motor stand	52012.STL
	52004	Optional HS1177 Camera Mount	52004.STL
	52005	Optional HS1184 Camera Mount	52005.STL

Hardware Shown

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten front and rear decks and ribs in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Light Weight Pan and Tilts

This is also a new release. Both the "Lightweight Pan and Tilt" and the "Lightweight Pan and Tilt - v2" I have published on Thingiverse will bolt directly to the canopy.

For more information on these two add-ons please see the Thingiverse pages here:

Lightweight Pan and Tilt

Lightweight Pan and Tilt - v2

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	47009	Canopy, Lightweight Pan and Tilt	47009.STL
	54002	Front deck plate	54002.STL
	54001	Rear deck plate	54001.STL
	52006	Deck Plate, rib	52006.STL
	52004	Optional HS1177 Camera Mount	52004.STL
	52005	Optional HS1184 Camera Mount	52005.STL

Hardware Shown

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten front and rear decks and ribs in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Heavy Duty Pan and Tilt

This is the same set-up as previously released but with the new canopy and FPV camera mounts which lower the cameras enough to clear the bottom edge of the canopy. For more information on the P&T parts and hardware please see the P&T article here - Heavy Duty Pan and Tilt

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	47007	Canopy, Heavy Duty Pan and Tilt	47007.STL
	54003	GWS Servo mount	54003.STL
	2205	GWS Servo bearing plate	2205.STL
	52004	Optional HS1177 Camera Mount	52004.STL
	52005	Optional HS1184 Camera Mount	52005.STL

Hardware Shown

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten front and rear decks and ribs in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Plain Decks

This section has a few "Plain" decks. These are generally not compatible with any of the canopies and are full coverage decks which cover all the foam on the front of the fuselage.

Simple GWS Servo Deck

If all you need is a simple deck to mount the GWS S125-1T, 360 degree servo, this is it. This deck puts the servo forward so a Pan and Tilt can look straight down over the nose. Additionally, if you want to add the heavy duty bearing plate and servo coupler, the bosses are here and ready to be tapped to M3 for the bearing plate stand-offs.

NOTE: This is a full coverage deck and is not compatible with any of the canopies.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	54005	Front deck plate, wide, GWS	54005.STL
	54006	Rear deck plate, wide	54006.STL
	52006	Deck plate support rib	52006.STL

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten front and rear decks and ribs in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Skid Plates

Front Skids

If you want the best fore and aft skid protection then look no further! These skids have been tested 100's of times on some of the worst landing surfaces you could imagine and they do the job. There are two versions of the front skid, one wide, one narrow. The wide, 2 piece, skid does a better job in cut shale or other super abrasive surfaces, the narrow version is lighter and printable as a single piece.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52101	Front skid, nose piece	52101.STL
	52102	Front skid, flat piece	52102.STL
	52103	Front skid, 1 piece narrow	52103.STL

Rear Skid

This skid does an amazing job of keeping the rear lower fin intact and straight.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52104	Rear skid	52104.STL

Install

Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to fasten skid pieces in place.

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for these parts. They will fit and work excellently on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed. The rear skid can be printed right-side up or down, both with supports. It will look best printed down-side up but this is difficult to print for some.

Gear Decks

Below are two gear decks for mounting electronics in the fuselage. The first "Main Gear Deck" bolts into the center structure and is a great place to mount a flight controller and other bits. The second "Rear Gear Deck" sits just behind the wood center structure and is a great place to mount an RX, GPS puck or ESC.

Main Gear Deck

Having a bolt-in gear deck is a really nice feature in any build. Many have re-designed the entire wood structure but I find this to be redundant, unnecessary work as the wood structure is quite good, stronger than PLA or ABS of the same dimensions and very easy to work with.

This gear deck then uses four threaded clips which glue nicely to the wood structure and put the deck just above the bottom of the structure. You could also elect to use four rubber dampers if you are having vibration issues. The first picture below is an older version of this deck which can be found on Thingiverse if you think it will better suit your needs.

Older version with outside deck clips

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52017	Gear deck	52017.STL
	52015	Gear deck clip 'A'	52015.STL
	52016	Gear deck clip 'B'	52016.STL
	1021STL	Complete STL group	1021STL.STL

Install

1. Print the "Complete STL group" file

2. Tap the four clips to M3

3. Assemble the deck in the wood structure using four M3 machine screws AFTER the wood structure is installed in the plane

4. Make sure all four clips are lined up evenly and fully seated against the wood

5. Use thin CA to secure the clips to the wood being careful not to glue the deck to the clips

Print Recomendations

ABS or PLA is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Rear Gear Deck

The rear deck idea came from a poster on RCGroups as a way to mount an ESC directly under an air vent in the hatch. I really liked this idea so came up with my own version which pivots up so you can get to anything below the deck if and when needed.

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52018	Deck pivot mount	52018.STL
	52019	Rear deck plate	52019.STL
	52020	Rear deck mount hold-down	52020.STL
	52021STL	Complete rear deck STL group	52021STL.STL

Install

1. Print the "Complete STL group" file or the individual parts

2. Tap the the two pivot ears to M3

3. Tap the two rear mounts to M3

4. Mount the deck to the pivot piece with two M3 x 8mm screws (I use nylon screws)

5. Snap the pivot piece into the center of the rear wood cross-piece

6. Wick in some thin CA glue

7. Pivot the deck to level and mark the side foam where the rear mounts are to go

8. Use E6000 or UHU-POR glue to glue the mounts in place and screw the deck down to hold it all together while the glue sets

Print Recomendations

ABS or PLA is recommended for this part. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Motor Mounts

Rear Motor Mount

In my opinion the wood mount is sufficiently strong and when set-up correctly will provide secure mounting and enough air flow for cooling. Please see my set-up of the wood mount for more information - Wood mount set-up.

Having said that, I designed this print to acommodate all the aspects of the correctly set-up wood mount as an alternative for those that want to do a print instead. This mount has a larger center hole and wire pass through as well as 5mm stand-offs to allow more cooling air to exit the fuselage. Also in this design are four "ears" that lock it into position and two sets of cross mount holes on 34mm & 44mm bolt circles to accomodate many 22XX and 28XX motors. The mount holes have "nut wells" to glue in M3 nuts on the forward side.

Rear view

Front view

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52022	Motor mount	52022.STL

Install

1. Print the mount front side down

2. Clean-up the print and with a little glue, push four M3 nuts into the nut wells which fit your cross mount

3. Put small pieces of cellophane tape over each nut to protect it from the mount glue

4. Using a soldering iron or hot wire, carve out the four small notches for the mount ears in the fuselage halves

5. Dry fit the part insuring the fuselage halves go together tightly

6. Use E6000, Beacons FoamTac or UHU-POR glue to glue the mount in place

7. After the fuse is glued up, use a small hotwire through each cross-mount hole to pierce the cellophane tape and open the foam up

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part with an infill of at least 60%. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Original Twin Motor Mounts

The twin project was another that came from some discussion on RCGroups. I did this one a little differently because I did the design and then left it up to the community to do some of the initial testing. The results were mixed with some folks having launch issues and some having no problems.

After a few weeks of this someone requested simple 2D drawings of something they could cut out of plywood or plastic so I came up with the "Simple" solution. This uses simple 6 piece skeleton mounts that are assembled then mounted to the plane. Thee are the mounts I eventually (successfully) tested with and they are nearly identical to the "swoopier" mounts first designed.

This then are these two versions starting with the original design.

Left side mount

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52008	Motor mount, left side	52008.STL
	52009	Motor mount, right side	52009.STL
	52010	Motor mount key	52010.STL

Install

1. Print the mount motor face down

2. Clean up and push, with a little glue, four nyloc nuts into the nut wells inside the mount

3. Carefully measure and mark where the inside edge of the mount is to go

4. Make a trough in the wing foam to pass ESC motor wires into where the mount will be

5. Apply liberal amounts of glue and push the mount into position on the wing

6. Make sure to thread the ESC wires in through the wire hole in the mount face

7. Check that the mounts are perfectly parallel with a straight edge then clamp and pin in place and let the glue fully set

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part with an infill of at least 40%. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Simple Twin Motor Mounts

Here are the simpler, easier to print mounts. They aren't much to look at but they are effective!

MT2 with Twins!

Image	Part Number	Part Description	Print File
	52023	Simple_motor mount, front	52023.STL
	52024	Simple_motor mount, gusset	52024.STL
	52025	Simple_motor mount, key	52025.STL
	52026	Simple_motor mount, LL side	52026.STL
	52027	Simple_motor mount, LR Side	52027.STL
	52028	Simple_motor mount, RL side	52028.STL
	52029	Simple_motor mount, RR side	52029.STL

Install

1. Print the 12 mount pieces in ABS

2. Clean up and assemble the two sides with ABS pipe cement being careful to get the right pairs together. A dry fit will help keep it straight.

3. Carefully measure and mark where the inside edge of each mount is to go

4. Make a trough in the wing foam to pass ESC motor wires into where the mount will be

5. Apply liberal amounts of glue and push the mount into position on the wing

6. Check that the mounts are perfectly parallel with a straight edge then clamp and pin in place and let the glue fully set

Print Recomendations

ABS is recommended for this part with an infill of at least 40%. It will fit and work fine on 0.2mm resolution and slow to moderate print speed.

Misc Mini Talon Parts

TBA

See Also

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